Well, y'know, Nabin—Kathleen Kennedy just couldn't understand what Lord & Miller were up to, because they're not...easy to get like, say, Opie Cunningham is....
I honestly feel bad for Ron Howard because I think he's a good, and sometimes great, filmmaker, but all too often Hollywood turns to him as the "safe" choice, and he's been there too long not to give the studios what they expect. Lord & Miller are on a whole different wavelength that our inner fans hear loud and clear, though it's really unlikely anybody else can replicate it (though maybe The Daniels can?).
You are not wrong, sir! Saw it twice in 24 hours and sammiched a rewatch of Into the Spider-Verse in there. Depending on how the next one goes we just might need to shut all of cinema down and call it a day.
Lord and Miller deep dive forthcoming? I joke with my kids that Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs is my favourite movie of all time...but am I really joking?
Can someone please explain to me why superhero movies (particularly Marvel movies, I don’t know what Gunn has in mind for DCU) haven’t learned a damn thing from Into the Spiderverse? Yes, I realize it’s animated instead of live action ( then again, with the amount of CGI in Antman Quadrophenia, that’s darn near animated). (And yes, I’m holding Antman in particular as an example of bad Marvel movies, because it was the first one to lose money, and it deserved to.)
Comics fans and moviegoers can take dense, high velocity movies without info dumps, or wisecracks to mitigate the emotional overdrive. It’s not superhero fatigue, it’s formula fatigue.
Me feel like it not superhero movies in particular, but storytelling in general that misunderstand what make story great. It that emotional underpinings have to come first. There have been plenty of shitty movies made about killer shark, but Jaws is one of greatest movies ever made becaue it first and foremost character study contrasting three different types of masculinity by putting three characters into pressure cooker, and that pressure cooker happen to be shark.
Overall, me do enjoy Marvel movies, but too many of them feel like screenwriters' biggest question was "what kind of slowly disintegrating flying platform can we have climactic fight on" instead of "what does this say about universal human experience?"
Because Spider-Verse movies are first and foremost about universal experience. Not living up to expectations, not wanting to disappoint parents, not knowing how to talk to person you have crush on, child trying to assert self in adult world, dealing with loss, grief, guilt — and it just happen to use radioactive spider bite as entryway to all of those problems. But me suspect if Miles Morales not had been bitten by spider, and we just got movie about overachiever trying to live up to expectations, trying to get closer to appealing but standoffish girl, and realizing that uncle he look up to not good role model, that would be pretty great movie all by itself. But then we also get giddy thrill ride through decades of Spider-Man lore, but that just frosting on cookie. It just happen that Lord and Miller bake gourmet cookie and put four inches of frosting on top.
2) it ends on a cliff-hanger, so maybe I should wait until the next chapter comes out before I see this one?
Except
Literally no one has said, "I wish I had waited until the next one came out", or "how frustrating to have nothing get resolved". Universal praise. Universal love.
Almost anything you hear about these days with shooting two movies back-to-back will be a two-parter ending with a cliffhanger. A few years ago, audiences were "stunned" by the ending of Avengers: Infinity War. I was like, there's a new one coming out next year - Spider-Man's gonna be fine.
However, I will not trade the moment this past Saturday afternoon at the end of Across the Spider-Verse when my kids (aged 8 and 12) looked over at me and both angrily said "WHAT?!"
But hell, I remember when I was 9 sitting in a theater watching "The Empire Strikes Back" and thinking "They're just going to end it there?"
Well, y'know, Nabin—Kathleen Kennedy just couldn't understand what Lord & Miller were up to, because they're not...easy to get like, say, Opie Cunningham is....
I honestly feel bad for Ron Howard because I think he's a good, and sometimes great, filmmaker, but all too often Hollywood turns to him as the "safe" choice, and he's been there too long not to give the studios what they expect. Lord & Miller are on a whole different wavelength that our inner fans hear loud and clear, though it's really unlikely anybody else can replicate it (though maybe The Daniels can?).
You are not wrong, sir! Saw it twice in 24 hours and sammiched a rewatch of Into the Spider-Verse in there. Depending on how the next one goes we just might need to shut all of cinema down and call it a day.
Lord and Miller deep dive forthcoming? I joke with my kids that Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs is my favourite movie of all time...but am I really joking?
Can someone please explain to me why superhero movies (particularly Marvel movies, I don’t know what Gunn has in mind for DCU) haven’t learned a damn thing from Into the Spiderverse? Yes, I realize it’s animated instead of live action ( then again, with the amount of CGI in Antman Quadrophenia, that’s darn near animated). (And yes, I’m holding Antman in particular as an example of bad Marvel movies, because it was the first one to lose money, and it deserved to.)
Comics fans and moviegoers can take dense, high velocity movies without info dumps, or wisecracks to mitigate the emotional overdrive. It’s not superhero fatigue, it’s formula fatigue.
Me feel like it not superhero movies in particular, but storytelling in general that misunderstand what make story great. It that emotional underpinings have to come first. There have been plenty of shitty movies made about killer shark, but Jaws is one of greatest movies ever made becaue it first and foremost character study contrasting three different types of masculinity by putting three characters into pressure cooker, and that pressure cooker happen to be shark.
Overall, me do enjoy Marvel movies, but too many of them feel like screenwriters' biggest question was "what kind of slowly disintegrating flying platform can we have climactic fight on" instead of "what does this say about universal human experience?"
Because Spider-Verse movies are first and foremost about universal experience. Not living up to expectations, not wanting to disappoint parents, not knowing how to talk to person you have crush on, child trying to assert self in adult world, dealing with loss, grief, guilt — and it just happen to use radioactive spider bite as entryway to all of those problems. But me suspect if Miles Morales not had been bitten by spider, and we just got movie about overachiever trying to live up to expectations, trying to get closer to appealing but standoffish girl, and realizing that uncle he look up to not good role model, that would be pretty great movie all by itself. But then we also get giddy thrill ride through decades of Spider-Man lore, but that just frosting on cookie. It just happen that Lord and Miller bake gourmet cookie and put four inches of frosting on top.
The only negative things I've heard:
1) no Nic Cage this time
2) it ends on a cliff-hanger, so maybe I should wait until the next chapter comes out before I see this one?
Except
Literally no one has said, "I wish I had waited until the next one came out", or "how frustrating to have nothing get resolved". Universal praise. Universal love.
Almost anything you hear about these days with shooting two movies back-to-back will be a two-parter ending with a cliffhanger. A few years ago, audiences were "stunned" by the ending of Avengers: Infinity War. I was like, there's a new one coming out next year - Spider-Man's gonna be fine.
However, I will not trade the moment this past Saturday afternoon at the end of Across the Spider-Verse when my kids (aged 8 and 12) looked over at me and both angrily said "WHAT?!"
But hell, I remember when I was 9 sitting in a theater watching "The Empire Strikes Back" and thinking "They're just going to end it there?"